I guess Mantlo was the first of the Seven Deadly Sins, then came the others that just killed of AF.
I guess Mantlo was the first of the Seven Deadly Sins, then came the others that just killed of AF.
I may have said this before...But as much as I love Bill's work on Micronauts, Rom, etc...I hated what he did in Alpha Flight. IMHO, He shot Alpha Flight in the kneecaps, stabbed them in the heart and then lopped off their heads...He certainly destroyed Puck's origin and nearly ruined the twins...Making them elves was minor compared to him wanting to write Northstar as having AIDS, thank the gods editorial stopped him from doing it. Mantlo also had Heather kill Snowbird, he had Bochs go insane and killed him off as well. I don't fault him for the emotional mess between Talisman and Shaman, as that was left brewing when Byrne left the book...However, having Shaman so casually just put on the Talisman's circlet of power was insanely stupid....He shouldn't have been able to, it wasn't meant for him to wear...Only Elizabeth or her ancestors would be worthy...It was obvious, That Mr Mantlo either didn't research these characters or he didn't give a crap what he did with them.
I understand he may have wanted to use his own characters in a book (Persuasion, Manikin, Goblyn or whoever else), but why did he have to choose Alpha Flight to do it in (destroying what was there to make room for his own creations). If he didn't want to use the established characters in Alpha Flight, then he never should have agreed to trade books with Byrne...Marvel should have chosen somebody else to take the book over, when John wanted to leave.
Dana
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ALPHA FLIGHT IS RESURRECTED, LONG LIVE ALPHA FLIGHT!
You are preachin to the choir Dana!
Digger
Yeah!
'cept the bit about Talisman's ancestors... I think you mean the previous Talismi?
'coz her father would be an ancestor. Technic'ly.
- Le Messor
"He taught us drawing, stretching, and fainting in coils."
I agree. Being mysterious is a good thing for any future Flight. You never want to reveal all the secrets, but keep people guessing - that is what drives interest, and sales. It is what Volume 2 tried to do - whether it failed because the plug got pulled too early on it is a moot point, but still one that can be pondered in hindsight.
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Whoops...Sorry Mik...I meant her future descendants, not ancestors...Since the line skipped Michael, I'm guessing either Elizabeth's children or grandchildren would also be worthy of the circlet. I apologize for choosing the wrong word (I really have no idea how I screwed that up).
Dana
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Meh. Just so we understand now.
- Le Messor
"He who hesitates is sometimes saved."
I guess I should've said "...just one person..."
The 1st year helped tie Alpha Flight more closely to the Marvel universe, but the character assassination also began. Year 2 (#s 40 through 51) got rid of most of the Byrne characters in the most d(e)spicable manner I've ever read. The series should've been put on hiatus if this was the best that Marvel was going to do with them. Although I consider it the Mantlo era because the writer gets credit for the direction of a series and its tone, how can anyone blame the writer for publishing a book and/or pages out of sequence [Northstar references a kiss by Pestilence (in #43) that happens in the following issue (in # 44)]?
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Once upon a time, they exploded from the pages of The X-Men. For a moment, they were "Canada's answer to The Avengers."
They were ALPHA FLIGHT....
...once upon a time.